Flat Earth or Globe Earth ?

[Cactus]

It's not a question of biting anything Cactus. I'm just trying to give you information.

Who is 'they' by the way? Wikileaks? If I recall it was just a piece of information in their massive data dump... it wasn't 'put up' so much as someone had taken the time to trawl through all the information and had spotted it.

Unfortunately I can find no record of it now.....but that's the memory hole for you.

Of course, I will take paranoid schizoid as a compliment then. No offence in that, eh

 

[Truthspoon]

Knowing the truth boosts my mental state. Living in lies would surely drive me nuts. If you did not understand Zig you were not paying attention. His mind is sharp. Won't ever con him with tribal bs
Reading you I sense a total disinterest in getting to the bottom of it. Takes courage to face a wall of monied interests spinning billion dollar yarns and defying elementary physics at every turn. In my mi d the elites have a serious credibility problem. They lie aboiut everything.

I have nothing against Ziggy, he's a funny chap..... but I believe he is mistaken about Flat Earth and to be frank, he made no attempt to properly debate or defend his viewpoint, instead just posting memes and coming up with soundbites and tropes about Nasa and Freemasons.

I know Nasa lie and Freemasons are bad..... but just saying so doesn't make a case for a Flat Earth.

 

[Truthspoon]

Of course, I will take paranoid schizoid as a compliment then. No offence in that, eh

I'd written this text a couple of weeks ago. I didn't have you in mind and still don't...... but I can't deny that I am logically at a loss to understand why people believe in Flat Earth...... my analysis that only people in an illogical state of mind would believe something so illogical seems to fit.

 

[Cactus]

I have nothing against Ziggy, he's a funny chap..... but I believe he is mistaken about Flat Earth and to be frank, he made no attempt to properly debate or defend his viewpoint, instead just posting memes and coming up with soundbites and tropes about Nasa and Freemasons.

I know Nasa lie and Freemasons are bad..... but just saying so doesn't make a case for a Flat Earth.

And you made a case for the ball earth?

 

[Truthspoon]

And you made a case for the ball earth?

I did. In the form of questions. I will repost them here:

But how about you tell me about how your flat-Earth 'realm' or whatever it is works.

Does the flat-Earth world have 'science'? Fundamental forces and particles?

What are they?

Tell me about how your 'Flat Earth' works?

How do airplanes work for instance? What is the force that they and indeed any flying creature needs to overcome so they can be airborne?

Where does the sun go when it is night? How is it that such a thing as the international date-line exists? What about latitude and longitude?

Why is the Northern hemisphere in winter when the southern hemisphere is experiencing summer?

 

[Cactus]

I'd written this text a couple of weeks ago. I didn't have you in mind and still don't...... but I can't deny that I am logically at a loss to understand why people believe in Flat Earth...... my analysis that only people in an illogical state of mind would believe something so illogical seems to fit.

Guess you will have to work that out. Gratuitous characterizations of peoples mental state because they dont get 5 when they add up 2+2 is not proof of anything. Be my guest, prove the ball earth. That would be a good starting point. Because this thread is not about mental issues.

 

[Cactus]

I did. In the form of questions. I will repost them here:

But how about you tell me about how your flat-Earth 'realm' or whatever it is works.

Does the flat-Earth world have 'science'? Fundamental forces and particles?

What are they?

Tell me about how your 'Flat Earth' works?

How do airplanes work for instance? What is the force that they and indeed any flying creature needs to overcome so they can be airborne?

Where does the sun go when it is night? How is it that such a thing as the international date-line exists? What about latitude and longitude?

Why is the Northern hemisphere in winter when the southern hemisphere is experiencing summer?

We proved it with answers not questions.

 

[Cactus]

If you need to start from entry level may I suggest a tutor

 

[Truthspoon]

We proved it with answers not questions.

You see what I mean? That's a soundbite, not a logical rebuttal.

 

[Truthspoon]

Your Flat Earth model cannot answer the most basic questions.... the 'Ball Earth' model can.

Therefore you model is at fault.

 

[Truthspoon]

How does your 'flat Earth' model explain the precession of the Equinoxes.

How does it even explain an equinox, or a solstice for that matter?

 

[Cactus]

My personal interest in this thread is not putting up a three ring circus for the benefit of those that won't bother examining any of the detailed videos out there. Eric Dubay would be a good starting point for that. My hope is that something comes up to help discover how deep and how wide is this plane world. Anything else has been worked to death. Anyone not getting the basic by now never will most likely.

 

[Cactus]

How does your 'flat Earth' model explain the precession of the Equinoxes.

How does it even explain an equinox, or a solstice for that matter?

Why are you asking me? I don't do entry level anymore. Had enough of that. Always another lost soul seeking direction. I suggest you catch up soon because things beyond entry level are very exciting.

 

[Cactus]

Your Flat Earth model cannot answer the most basic questions.... the 'Ball Earth' model can.

Therefore you model is at fault.

Is that why airliners nose is always pointing down when in flight, to compensate for curvature? Or the submarine tilted down so it won't inadvertantly surface due to curvature?

How did I not see that.

 

[Cactus]

Spinning at 1000 mph means a helicopter can rise off the ground, remain still and let the rotating earth bring the destination to him. We see that all the time, eh?

 

[Cactus]

I guess thats why we can't see the Statue of Liberty from 60 miles away, because according to the curvature formula it is way behind the horizon. Oh, wait a minute, you can see the Statue of Liberty 60 miles away.

 

[Cactus]

Flight going from Bali to LAX in California. Straight line across the round Pacific Ocean. Woman onboard gives birth and the plane makes an emergency landing in Alaska. That sure makes sense on an azimuthal equidistant projection but on a ball, Hawaii was the closest stop not Alaska. The list is endless. Only someone that refuses to know will not understand the implications.

 

[Cactus]

Flat earth is demonized for the same reasons non-vaxxed are demonized. For interfering with extremely lucrative big lies. Pharama and NASA loot are invested heavily in creating illusions. Almost every Hollywood movie starts with a ball earth. Or used to anyways and Disney showcases a dome over it's castle at the start of their films. The first director of NASA was a former studio boss in Hollywood and Disney cooperated with NASA. Big money depends on the earth remaining round just as big money is riding on vaccine sales. You stop believing in those and you bankrupt them. No money in flat earth. No money in health.

 

[Cactus]

The Antarctic Treaty has nothing to do with protecting penguins.

 

[Truthspoon]

My personal interest in this thread is not putting up a three ring circus for the benefit of those that won't bother examining any of the detailed videos out there. Eric Dubay would be a good starting point for that. My hope is that something comes up to help discover how deep and how wide is this plane world. Anything else has been worked to death. Anyone not getting the basic by now never will most likely.

Always the same thing.... you cannot answer pertinent questions or even make a case for Flat Earth.....

Why would you choose to believe something you cannot yourself explain?