Flat Earth or Globe Earth ?

[Cactus]

Speaking of depth of a plane earth what we know is the furthest drilled down was 8 miles by a Russian rig. They said they had to stop because the bits were seriously overheating. I take it by this they mean the deeper you go the hotter it gets.

The Mariana Trench is about the same depth under the ocean as the hole dug by the Russians but the temperature is mild. Not even steam bubbles. Both are the same distance from the supposed core of the ball earth yet this temperature disparity.

 

[I AM ALL I AM]

Flat earth is demonized for the same reasons non-vaxxed are demonized. .....

G'day Cactus.

I call bullshit on that statement.

You are stating a logical fallacy that because 'A' is true then 'B' is true, when 'A' and 'B' are two different topics (Flat Earth vs Vaccinations).

When you look at the sky, do you see a round Sun as I do?

When you look at the sky at night, do you see a round Moon as I do?

Now, the first image shows two 3:4:5 triangles and a relationship of 3:11 between the Moon and the Earth.

3 + 4 + 5 = 12
3 x 4 x 5 = 60

12 x 60 = 720

There are 720 degrees in the internal angles of a Tetrahedron, one of the 5 Platonic Solids. The Number 720 is also the third Octave of the F# Note (180 - 360 - 720) in 432Hz Musical Tuning, which has 14 Notes (Moon 3 + Earth 11 = 14).

720 x 3 = 2,160 ..... which in miles is the diameter of the Moon.

720 x 11 = 7,920 ..... which in miles is the diameter of the Earth.

Of course, 432 is the square root of 186,624, which is the classical number for the Speed of Light in miles per second.

So, there are direct correlations between the Earth and Moon that 'fit' together with the 14 Notes of 432Hz Musical Tuning, the Speed of Light and the 5 Platonic Solids (the 'building blocks' of all physical matter and the basis for the whole periodic table of elements).

Can the 'Flat Earth' theory provide any direct correlations as presented above?

Further to this, the first 12 Numbers of the Fibonacci series (Divine Proportion) added together ...

1 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 + 8 + 13 + 21 + 34 + 55 + 89 + 144 = 376

... total 376 and ...

3 + 7 + 6 = 16

... and ...

376 / 16 = 23.5

... which in degrees happens to be the tilt of the Earths axis and produces the seasons and Precession of the Equinox. Of course the Divine Proportion is inherent within all physical matter through the spiral of the DNA strand, among other aspects.

Can 'Flat Earth' theory provide any correlations with the Divine Proportion (Phi - 1.618)?

After all, a spherical Earth directly correlates with observable physical phenomenon.

 

[WhiteKingWins]

Myself Im skeptical of NASA imagery for the most part.

There was a great website I used to spend time going through

Mars Anomaly Research Home Page

www.marsanomalyresearch.com

It seems to have stopped being updated but is still there for now.

The host details how NASA has been caught numerous times fudging the images , essentially pixelating , inverting , outright blurring things so they can't be seen all the way to uploading then deleting imagery only for it to come back " smudged "

The images of Earth that NASA gives us Im also very skeptical of.

But having said that , I still can't seem to get an answer to my question from people who do believe the Earth is flat and I would think its a logical point to make :

If Earth is more of a disc shape , and not a globe then why do other celestial objects appear round and globe like ?

As in ... are they flat discs too but sort of turned sideways to us so as to appear as globes ?

You know ? Its very difficult for me to accept that for instance the Moon is really a disc and is just tilted toward us to look like a globe shape.

IDK. There are compelling points on both sides of the fence.

Im interested in the idea that water appears to " stick " to Earth when perhaps physics would suggest it should not ?

Perhaps I should admit I dont know enough about physics or the exact forces at work here.

 

[WhiteKingWins]

The only evidence for a ball earth is the NASA cg image they have been putting up as authentic since the start of the deep space hoaxing. Meaning essentially that there is no compelling argument for a ball earth but plenty of compelling arguments against it. Those believing the earth is a ball are not motivated to check into it because either they are earning a living on the lies or are so deeply emersed in surroundings where everyone takes a piss on those believing in a plane.

For my part the subject has been explained to me satisfactorily and my conviction in this regard is 100%. The only questions I still have are, how deep? How wide?

Hey Cactus

Im not sure the only evidence for globe Earth is NASA imagery.

For example theres this :

Its quite compelling for the case of globe Earth , which I admit I do lean toward.

 

[Cactus]

Hey Cactus

Im not sure the only evidence for globe Earth is NASA imagery.

For example theres this :

Its quite compelling for the case of globe Earth , which I admit I do lean toward.

The Statue of Liberty is visible 60 miles away. According to the globe earth formula for curvature this would not be possible. Countless landmarks are seen from distances impossible to reconciliate with a sphere. That is compelling evidence. Your video does not change this fact. Flight path emergency landing scenarios confirm the equidistant azimuthal layout perfectly. No need to get bogged down with less compelling evidence. Personally I can't see how anyone can sit on the fence on this issue. You believe it or you dont. You can only deny the plane earth if you ignore irrefutable facts. Facts like water does not stick to a spinning ball. Try it.

 

[Cactus]

IDK. There are compelling points on both sides of the fence.

Not true. Nothing "compelling" or "irrefutable" on the globe stance.

 

[Cactus]

" October 16, 1854, the Times newspaper reported the Queen's visit to Great Grimsby from Hull recording they were able to see the 300 foot tall dock tower from 70 miles away. On a ball Earth 25,000 miles in circumference, factoring their 10 foot elevation above the water and the tower's 300 foot height, at 70 miles away the dock tower should have remained an entire 2,600 feet below the horizon. " - archive

" In 1862 Capt. Gibson and crewmates sailing the ship "Thomas Wood" from China to London, reported seeing the entirety of St. Helena Island on a clear day from 75 miles away. Factoring in their height during measurement on a ball Earth 25,000 miles in circumference, it was found the island should have been 3, 650 feet below their line of sight. " - archive

The list of such testimonials is long. Water sticking to a ball... no wonder covid is such a big success considering how low the bar has been set for evidence in the public mind. Simple irrefutable evidence is what it says, irrefutable.

 

[Cactus]

How deep and how wide. Those are the questions remaining unsolved.

 

[Cactus]

Hawaiian Airlines flight HA50 Hawaii to JFK January 24, 2019. Eergency landing at San Francisco.

Los Angeles. On a globe earth was directly on the flight path but they landed in San Francisco. One might imagine controllers rerouting to San Francisco for some technical reasons on the ground but we see this odd wide diversion again with another Hawaiian Airlines emergency landing on a flight from San Diego California to Hawaii. Flight HA37 October 22, 2018

One hour out on it's path to Hawaii the plane made an emergency landing in Oakland California. Only makes sense on an equidistant azimuthal projection. Makes no sense on the globe model. Examples like this are numerous.

 

[Cactus]

One major implication of the plane earth is that there is way more water than estimated using a spherical model. As the circumference widens away from the center point the water volume grows exponentially. Instead of curving under from the equator it keeps getting wider instead. Meaning our world is vastly larger.

 

[I AM ALL I AM]

G'day Cactus.

I call bullshit on that statement.

You are stating a logical fallacy that because 'A' is true then 'B' is true, when 'A' and 'B' are two different topics (Flat Earth vs Vaccinations).

When you look at the sky, do you see a round Sun as I do?

When you look at the sky at night, do you see a round Moon as I do?

Now, the first image shows two 3:4:5 triangles and a relationship of 3:11 between the Moon and the Earth.

3 + 4 + 5 = 12
3 x 4 x 5 = 60

12 x 60 = 720

There are 720 degrees in the internal angles of a Tetrahedron, one of the 5 Platonic Solids. The Number 720 is also the third Octave of the F# Note (180 - 360 - 720) in 432Hz Musical Tuning, which has 14 Notes (Moon 3 + Earth 11 = 14).

720 x 3 = 2,160 ..... which in miles is the diameter of the Moon.

720 x 11 = 7,920 ..... which in miles is the diameter of the Earth.

Of course, 432 is the square root of 186,624, which is the classical number for the Speed of Light in miles per second.

So, there are direct correlations between the Earth and Moon that 'fit' together with the 14 Notes of 432Hz Musical Tuning, the Speed of Light and the 5 Platonic Solids (the 'building blocks' of all physical matter and the basis for the whole periodic table of elements).

Can the 'Flat Earth' theory provide any direct correlations as presented above?

Further to this, the first 12 Numbers of the Fibonacci series (Divine Proportion) added together ...

1 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 + 8 + 13 + 21 + 34 + 55 + 89 + 144 = 376

... total 376 and ...

3 + 7 + 6 = 16

... and ...

376 / 16 = 23.5

... which in degrees happens to be the tilt of the Earths axis and produces the seasons and Precession of the Equinox. Of course the Divine Proportion is inherent within all physical matter through the spiral of the DNA strand, among other aspects.

Can 'Flat Earth' theory provide any correlations with the Divine Proportion (Phi - 1.618)?

After all, a spherical Earth directly correlates with observable physical phenomenon.

G'day Cactus.

What happened to your response?

Or is there a specific reason why you avoided responding to the above post?

From your lack of a response it appears that you have no response and are unable to show verifiable evidence of the 'Flat Earth' theory directly correlating with verifiable observable physical phenomenon.

"This article describes a tiny portion of the research conducted by the eminent nuclear physicist Dr. Robert J. Moon (1911-1989) [2], and it also introduces some possible variants of it. I came across Dr. Moon's geometrical model of the atomic nucleus after having known of a nice reorganization of the periodic table of the elements into a tetrahedral structure, the so called Perfect Periodic Table [3]."

Sacred Solids in the Atomic Nucleus

1.- Introduction "Our picture of the nucleus is so far different from the accepted picture (actually, there is no accepted picture) as to make any comparison impossible. The trained specialist recognizes immediately that if we are right, the whole edifice of 20th Century atomic physics must be...

www.sacred-geometry.es

The complete article is at the above link, showing that Dr Robert Moon presented verifiable evidence that the periodic table of elements is directly related to the 5 Platonic Solids.

You can also check the information at this link ... https://www.cosmic-core.org/free/ar...-2-periodic-table-of-elements-dr-robert-moon/

The Precession of the Equinox is an astronomically observable fact, as is the movement between different Pole Stars.

The Precession of the Equinox is actually 25,920 years​

432 x 60 =25,920

The 'A' note starts at a frequency of 216 and doubles out for each proceeding Octave ...

216 - 432 - 864 - 1728 - 3456

The Egyptian Royal Mile is 8/7 of a Statute Mile and there are 3,456 Egyptian Royal Miles in the Polar Radius of the Earth.

216 x 10 = the diameter of the Moon in miles
432 x 1,000 = the radius of the Sun in miles
864 x 1,000 = the diameter of the Sun in miles

The 'A' note is one of the 5 Rhythms of the Heart.

5 Platonic Solids - 5 Polar Stars - 5 Rhythms of the Heart ... and the 5th Octave of the 'A' Note is the Polar Radius of the Earth in Egyptian Royal Miles.

So there are some more correlations with observable physical phenomenon that are verifiable through Music - Number - Geometry - Astronomy, which the study of by ancient Greeks was called the Quadrium.

Yet there is a complete failure with the 'Flat Earth' theory in presenting any correlations with verifiable observable physical phenomenon. Nothing connecting it with the Divine Proportion (Fibonacci series) a.k.a the Golden Spiral, the Golden Angle (137.5), the Golden Rectangle or any other significantly known Geometry, nor Number, nor Music, nor Astronomy. Nothing !!!

You can check the math and geometry quite easily. Surely if there is an issue with any of it you will be able to satisfactorily debunk it all. The links have been provided for you to check the information by Dr Robert Moon, or you can even do your own search to debunk it.

By all means, I invite you to prove the above false using verifiable evidence.

 

[Cactus]

Here we are after 60+ years of outer space exploration. Trillions spent worldwide to explore the solar system and our close neighbor the moon.

We filmed and video'd just about everything we could and we used this same rocket technology to launch satellites in low earth orbit and beyond up to geostationary orbit far out enough to spin at the rate they say our world rotates.

We have seen live video streaming of shuttle and space station exploits and we watched the astronauts play golf on the moon and scenes from Mars even.

But just one CGI composite of the ball earth in 60+years. No live stream of a spinning globe earth we can watch on tv.

Not a single satellite orbiting the moon streaming live on 20 cable channels.

Why? Because the earth is flat and all space exploration claims by all nations involved are pure bullshit.

Why are they hiding the true earth?

 

[Cactus]

Assuming a sun at 93 million miles away it is logical that the temperature variations either side of an equator on a sphere should mirror each other. If you are x degrees south of the equater or x degrees north the sun rays received should be close to the same. But the opposite is true. The arctic has rich flora and wildlife in summer wheras antarctic is a frozen wasteland. As if a slight axial tilt of this imaginary sphere makes any difference.

The reason antarctica is constantly frozen is because the diameter of our flat world increases the further outward you go. The sun must cover more distance and therefore cannot dwell enough to melt anything.

By comparison there is no compelling argument proving a sphere earth. In fact, the oddest part of this topic is the number of intelligent people that appear to grasp even more complex matters have no cereblal energy to spare checking into this. They seem to not understand how ridicule of this subject is a space hoaxing funded practice. Designed to discredit those interfering with what has become a major cashcow deception.

Think of all the money they still plan on making selling space smoke and mirrors to sphere believers. Flat earth arrests these ambitions cold and sets up the hoaxsters to answer for their past deceptions.

 

[Cactus]

" Many people think that modern astronomy's ability to accurately predict lunar and solar eclipses is a result and proof positive of the heliocentric theory of the universe.

The fact of the matter however is that eclipses have been accurately predicted by cultures worldwide for thousands of years before the "heliocentric ball-Earth" was even a glimmer in Copernicus' imagination. Ptolemy in the first century A.D. accurately predicted eclipses for six hundred years on the basis of a flat, stationary Earth with equal precision as anyone living today. " -- Eric Dubay

 

[Cactus]

" Another assumption and supposed proof of Earth's shape, heliocentrists claim that lunar eclipses are caused by the shadow of the ball-Earth occulting the Moon.

They claim the Sun, Earth, and Moon spheres perfectly align like three billiard balls in a row so that the Sun's light casts the Earth's shadow onto the Moon.

Unfortunately for heliocentrists, this explanation is rendered completely invalid due to the fact that lunar eclipses have happened and continue to happen regularly when both the Sun and Moon are still visible together above the horizon. " -- Eric Dubay

 

[Cactus]

" Not only is the disappearance of ship's hulls explained by the Law of Perspectives on flat surfaces, it is proven undeniably true with the aid of a good telescope.

If you watch a ship sailing away into the horizon with the naked eye until it's hull has completely disappeared from view under the supposed "curvature of the Earth," then look through a telescope, you will notice the entire ship quickly zooms back into view, hull and all, proving that the disappearance was caused by the Law of Perspective, not by a wall of curved water!

This also proves that the horizon is simply the vanishing line of perspective from your point of view, NOT the alleged "curvature" of Earth." - Eric Dubay

 

[Cactus]

" People claim that if the Earth were flat, they should be able to use a telescope and see clear across the oceans!

This is absurd, however, as the air is full of precipitation especially over the oceans, and especially at the lowest, densest layer of atmosphere is NOT transparent.

Picture the blurry haze over roads on hot, humid days. Even the best telescope will blur out long before you could see across the ocean.

You can, however, use a telescope to zoom in MUCH more of our flat earth than would be possible on a ball 25,000 miles in circumference." -- Eric Dubay

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Here we find a plausible explanation why people say they can't see the North Star from under the equator. If the atmosphere were transparent they would from anywhere on the flat earth plane.

 

[Cactus]

" The ball-Earth model claims the Moon orbits around the Earth once every 28 days, yet it is plain for anyone to see that the Moon orbits around the Earth every single day!

The Moon's orbit is slightly slower that the Sun's same path from Tropic to Tropic, solstice to solstice, making a full circle over the Earth in just under 25 hours." ---- Eric Dubay

 

[Cactus]

" Throughout thousands of years the same constellations have remained fixed in their same patterns without moving out of position whatsoever.

If the Earth were a big ball spining around a bigger Sun spinning around a bigger galaxy shooting off from the Biggest Bang as NASA claims, it is impossible that the constellations would remain so fixed. Based on their model, we should, in fact, have an entirely different night sky every single night and never repeat exactly the same star pattern twice." -- Eric Dubay

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Yeah right, like NASA would allow the CIA to fund Dubay. : ) He is literally tearing them apart.

 

[Cactus]

" If Earth were a spinning ball it would be impossible to photograph star-trail time-lapses turning perfect circles around Polaris anywhere but the North Pole.

At all other vantage points the stars would be seen to travel more or less horizontally across the observer's horizon due to the alleged 1000 mph motion beneath their feet. In reality, however, Polaris's surrounding stars can always be photographed turning perfect circles around the central star all the way down to the Tropic of Capricorn." -- Eric Dubay