Debate Topic - Is the bible and biblical characters historical?

[I AM ALL I AM]

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[I AM ALL I AM]

G'day Truthspoon.

Verifiable evidence.

Why do you not believe in all of the other 'Gods'?

Or do you?

What evidence for the existence of all the other 'Gods' "would you find acceptable"?

Would it be verifiable evidence?

G'day Truthspoon.

Still no response even though I responded to your question of what evidence would I "find acceptable" (twice).

Amazingly, the same question that you ask in relationship to your 'God' you refuse to answer when it is in relationship to all other 'Gods'.

When you realise why you do not believe in all of the other 'Gods' you will realise why I do not believe in your 'God'.

 

[Truthspoon]

I've already proved you wrong in your claims and exposed your sources....

As far as I'm concerned it's over and I won.

Now you're resorting to some kind of semantic game...

I've got better things to do, no offense.

If you want to get back on track and ask a question I can actually answer, or make a point in good faith, I might take an interest again..... but on past form that seems unlikely.

You're just going to go around and around in your unreality cage...... like a mad hamster..... which you for some reason have chosen to call your cognitive home.

 

[I AM ALL I AM]

G'day Truthspoon.

I've already proved you wrong in your claims and exposed your sources....

"sources" is plural, you had an issue with Acharya / Murdoch, that is only one. At least be honest.

You haven't "proved you wrong" (sic) and everyone reading the thread can see that for themselves. Stating otherwise is disingenuous in the least.

As far as I'm concerned it's over and I won.

This isn't a pissing competition, it is a debate.

The fact that you haven't presented any verifiable evidence for our claims that are quoted in the OP clearly displays your lack of comprehension in how a debate works. You are supposed to present evidence to prove your claims, which you have not done.

So please explain on what grounds you claim "I won" when you have in no way, shape or form proven your claims to be true?

Now you're resorting to some kind of semantic game...

I've got better things to do, no offense.

False.

I am simply asking you the same question that you asked me and which I answered twice.

If you want to get back on track and ask a question I can actually answer, or make a point in good faith, I might take an interest again..... but on past form that seems unlikely.

"ask a question I can actually answer" says it all.

I asked you four simple questions ...

Why do you not believe in all of the other 'Gods'?

Or do you?

What evidence for the existence of all the other 'Gods' "would you find acceptable"?

Would it be verifiable evidence?

... which you refuse to answer for obvious reasons.

"good faith" ... faith is a belief without evidence, which is required to believe in your 'God'. As I have stated clearly on a number of occasions, I prefer verifiable evidence.

You're just going to go around and around in your unreality cage...... like a mad hamster..... which you for some reason have chosen to call your cognitive home.

Surely you recognise the futility of the ad hominem logical fallacy by now and that it is well known as the last resort for someone that has no argument to make. It makes it obvious that you have no verifiable evidence for the claims you made that are quoted in the OP.

If you did have some, then surely you would have posted them well before this thread reached page 3.

 

[Truthspoon]

But you ignore anything which doesn't fit with your beliefs.

Admit that this isn't a debate because your mind is made up and you will never change it.

You have no sources.......your position is the worst kind of malicious crankery fueled only by ignorance and you pull nonsense out of your behind...... and somehow I'm still supposed to think you are acting here in good faith?

I don't believe that you are..... I will not be participating in this thread any longer unless you can show good faith by posting something genuinely interesting or insightful and relevant to your topic..... and since you do not know your own facts could you at least provide a source for whatever second-hand claim you make from now on?

A source isn't just a link to a website..... a source means you have to check that what you are posting is not bullshit and offer some kind of factual corroboration for it.

And everything you have posted thus far has been baseless, sourceless, bullshit.

This is why we have sources..... so people don't get to spout off made-up nonsense and make out that they know something.

Which I regret to inform you is precisely what you have been doing this whole thread.

I believe you know better and are just trying it on....... because you're not that dumb.

 

[I AM ALL I AM]

This thread is to debate the question of historicity of biblical characters and the bible.

Truthspoon has stated: "Jesus Christ is a historical figure" and "The New Testament is a historical source"

G'day Truthspoon.

The above is from the OP and are claims that you have made ... FACT !!!

It is incumbent upon you to prove your claims, which you have not done ... FACT !!!

The evidence for the existence of Jesus is the existence of Christianity and its effect on the world.

The evidence for the existence of Jesus are the numerous canonical gospels biographies of Jesus, the letters from Paul, Peter and countless Christian writers who transmitted the message of Jesus throughout the ages. Also we have references to Jesus by Roman writers Pliny and Tacitus and the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus

The above claims that you make are a logical fallacy known as circular reasoning ... FACT !!!

The references you claim of Pliny, Tacitus and Josephus are forgeries, as was shown in my response to such claims, which you stated without providing any sources/links to the original, etc.

Further to this, I provided some of the contradictions within the "canonical gospels biographies of Jesus" ...

Then there are the contradictions between the 'Gospels', for instance ...

Matthew 1:16 states that Jacob is the father of Joseph.
Luke 3:23 states that Heli is the father of Joseph.

Matthew 2:1 states Jesus was born in the days of Herod.
Luke 2:2-3 states Jesus was born when Quirinius was governor of Syria.

Matthew 10:9-10 states acquire no staff.
Luke 9:3-5 states take no staff.
Mark 6:8 states take nothing except a staff.

Matthew 26:57 states Jesus was taken to the High priest.
Mark 14:53 states Jesus was taken to the High priest.
Luke 22:54 states Jesus was taken to the High priest.
John 18:13,24 states they first led him to Annias.

Mark 15:7 states Barabbas had committed murder.
Luke 23:18-19states Barabbas had committed murder.
John 18:40 states Barabbas was a robber.

An Easter Challenge For Christians by Dan Barker​

Leave No Stone Unturned: An Easter Challenge For Christians by Dan Barker (August 2000)

By Dan Barker An Easter Challenge For Christians I HAVE AN EASTER challenge for Christians. My challenge is simply this: tell me what happened on Easter. I am not asking

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... which are numerous and shows the inconsistencies within the material you are claiming is historical ... FACT !!!

I asked you four simple questions ...

Why do you not believe in all of the other 'Gods'?

Or do you?

What evidence for the existence of all the other 'Gods' "would you find acceptable"?

Would it be verifiable evidence?

... which you refuse to answer for obvious reasons.

You continue to refuse answering the above questions, why?

What proof of Jesus existence would you find acceptable?

You asked the above ... twice. To which I responded on both occasions with "verifiable evidence". Yet you refuse to answer the same question when you are asked it about all other 'Gods'.

You believe in a Jewish 'God' and Jewish 'Messiah' that had 12 Jewish 'Disciples' ... FACT !!!

Are you Jewish?

Now, do YOU have any verifiable evidence to present or not?

If you do not, are you going to withdraw your claims?

If you do, please present YOUR verifiable evidence.


Personally, I believe that you will not answer questions that I have asked because of how it reflects upon yourself and shows your religious faith to be irrational, illogical and nonsensical. It is a common trait of religious/cult followers.

 

[Truthspoon]

I have dismantled and disproved every one of your points.

You have failed to respond in good faith.

So goodbye.

And in reply to you final pathetic ad-hominem, I am not Jewish.

Are you?

You're the one who has spent his time here perpetrating Kabbalistic bullshit.

Do you like Aleister Crowley?

I know the answer is yes.

I come from Norse ancestry and also Illuminati bloodline from the 6th Earl of Wentworth.

I was headhunted by the Illuminati and trained to learn their greatest secrets.

Most of what people believe about the Illuminati is all mixed up.

Adrenochrome for instance isn't meant to be ingested....it is meant to be produced by the initiate's own body.

This is Illumination...... It's an ALCHEMICAL PROCESS.

The philosopher's stone is adrenochrome....but only is as much as the intitiate themselves produces it in their body and thus enters the arcanum arcanorum,

There's so much bullshit out there.

And people like you just get in the way and think you know something and like to pretend to others that they know something, when you don't know anything. In fact you harm good people with your destructive Kabbalistic nonsense.

By encouraging people to deny Christ you have stripped them of authentic spiritual and moral power and given them a handful of high-sounding fuck-all in return......

You will have a very rude awakening when you pass through the veil of death.....

I can already hear the howling laughter of the legion of demons which will greet you when you arrive at that frontier and you try to tell the demonic hierarchy that greets you that you are God.....

You are nothing but easy meat. A dupe of people who use you as etheric dog food.

 

[I AM ALL I AM]

G'day Truthspoon.

The ONLY question you respond to is the one asking if you are Jewish and your response shows it to have triggered you.

I have dismantled and disproved every one of your points.

Self promotion is no promotion at all.

In FACT, you have not "dismantled and disproved every one of your points" (sic).

Did you "dismantle and disprove" who has the copyright in your bible?

No.

Did you "dismantle and disprove" the contradictions within the biblical passage that I quoted?

No

Did you "dismantle and disprove" that you worship the Jewish 'God' and Jewish 'Messiah'?

No.

By using an absolute "every one", all that is required to show that your claim is fallacious is one "point" that you did not "dismantle and disprove".

If your claim is untrue, then it is a lie.

You have failed to respond in good faith.

So goodbye.

And in reply to you final pathetic ad-hominem, I am not Jewish.

You continue to use the term "faith" when it is, as I already posted previously, a belief without evidence. Faith is a religious followers indoctrinated defense mechanism used when they encounter facts. It is a 'knee-jerk' reaction of the triggered individual that has no reasoned, rational and logical response.

An ad hominem is an attack on the character of the individual instead of the information presented. Asking "Are you Jewish?" is not an ad hominem logical fallacy. It is a question.

If you are not Jewish, then why do you follow the Jewish 'God' of 'Abraham and Moses'?

Funny how that is the only question I asked that you actually responded to, as if it triggered you.

Are you?

No.

After all, it is you that is a follower of Jewish mythological characters that I state are invisible, imaginary friends for adults. It is you that follows a Jewish religion that I state is mythology.

You're the one who has spent his time here perpetrating Kabbalistic bullshit.

Do you like Aleister Crowley?

I know the answer is yes.

The above is a fantasy in your own mind which you cannot show to be true and is the reason that you answer the question yourself.

I come from Norse ancestry and also Illuminati bloodline from the 6th Earl of Wentworth.

Would that be Denmark, which is literally translated as 'the mark of Dan' one of the 12 'Tribes of Israel'?

I was headhunted by the Illuminati and trained to learn their greatest secrets.

Of course you were and of course you did.

So what are these "greatest secrets"?

Of course the word "greatest" is another absolute that you use in an attempt to elevate yourself as somehow superior to all others. Even if what you claim is true (another claim you cannot SHOW to be true), it would not make you superior.

Most of what people believe about the Illuminati is all mixed up.

Adrenochrome for instance isn't meant to be ingested....it is meant to be produced by the initiate's own body.

This is Illumination...... It's an ALCHEMICAL PROCESS.

The philosopher's stone is adrenochrome....but only is as much as the intitiate themselves produces it in their body and thus enters the arcanum arcanorum,

There's so much bullshit out there.

And I suggest that what you stated above is part of the "bullshit out there".

And people like you just get in the way and think you know something and like to pretend to others that they know something, when you don't know anything. In fact you harm good people with your destructive Kabbalistic nonsense.

"people like you" is a logical fallacy of guilt by association.

"you don't know anything" is an absolute that is obviously false as knowing any one thing shows it to be. For instance, knowing that the 'God' you follow is the Jewish 'God' of 'Abraham and Moses', or that there are 5 Platonic Solids (stereometrical shapes) that are the 'building blocks' of all physical matter.

By encouraging people to deny Christ you have stripped them of authentic spiritual and moral power and given them a handful of high-sounding fuck-all in return......

I encourage EVERYONE to make their own choices and to be free of being a follower.

After all, do you see Who I Am encouraging others to be followers of the Jewish 'God' and Jewish 'Messiah'?

You will have a very rude awakening when you pass through the veil of death.....

How would you know?

Have you "passed through the veil of death"?

I can already hear the howling laughter of the legion of demons which will greet you when you arrive at that frontier and you try to tell the demonic hierarchy that greets you that you are God.....

You are nothing but easy meat. A dupe of people who use you as etheric dog food.

Of course you "can already hear the howling laughter of the legion of demons".

The problem you face, as with the claims you made that is the topic of this debate, you are unable to show your claims to be true.

 

[Truthspoon]

https://www.truthspoon.com/2022/05/the-mystery-of-adrenochrome.html

The Mystery of Adrenochrome​

OPERATING BEYOND SAFE PARAMETERS

In the free Tokyo English language ex-pat newspapers and magazines one finds, at least when I lived there, advertisements and notices which raise many questions in themselves. If you were to go there now and thumb through the classifieds and jobs sections, the chances are you will find offers of certain kinds of special employment available exclusively to Filipino women. One such advert I found said something along the lines of: “wanted, psychically gifted Filipinos for ethical work in Tokyo area...” This raises two main questions immediately. Firstly, are there various agencies which know that psychic powers exist and they can use them for some purpose? Secondly if it is necessary for them to make the distinction that the work offered is ‘ethical’ then what else is going on out there behind the scenes involving ‘psychically gifted Filipinos’ which is not ethical?

What these ‘psychically gifted’ women or ‘witches’ as I would classify the bunch I happened to be sharing a house with, seemed able to do: and a South African Shaman friend of mine later confirmed to me that it was something she could also do, was to be able to project their consciousness into the mind of another person.

In the book The Chasm of Fire, Irene Tweedie documents a woman’s experience in India studying under a Sufi shaman. In the account she details the occurrence of her mentor actually entering her mind at night time and projecting all sorts of unsettling and unpleasant images into her mind. Most of the images are of a sexual nature and Tweedie fails to understand the process and why her mentor is doing such a thing to her. Eventually she comes close to a nervous breakdown and becomes very lonely and depressed to such an extent that she abandons the training.

The process which Irene Tweedle had chosen to enrol herself in and later abandoned, was a deliberate attempt by her Sufi mentor to drive her insane through the relentless terror and shock of the visions he was implanting in her mind. To Tweedle this made no sense, but if she had known perhaps that schizophrenia is the key to the Sufi ‘enlightenment’ and indeed the key goal of all such secret society initiatory programmes, then this knowledge would have allowed her to make sense of what was happening to her, although perhaps knowing the method to the madness may actually impede that goal. It is harder to be scared of the unknown if the unknown becomes known and difficult to remain in a state of confusion about the purpose if one can see that confusion IS the purpose.

But madness or schizophrenia isn’t quite the mystery it appears, in fact there is a clear bio-chemical origin behind the transformation from sanity to what is generally termed ‘insanity’. Barbara O’Brien reveals in her book that she:

“…became very curious about the psychiatrists who suspected a relationship between schizophrenia and a dysfunction of the adrenal gland.”
Under conditions of mental or physical stress the body produces adrenalin. There’s no mystery here and this process is well understood by most people. What is slightly more arcane and what has caused a stir in the truth community is adrenochrome. Unfortunately, a lot of what the truth movement is saying about adrenochrome is unfortunately wrong. The elite do not drink it as some kind of elixir of eternal youth, this is all disinformation and nonsense.

Adrenochrome is oxidised adrenalin, that is adrenalin which has gone bad. It is a neurotoxin and free-radical and is not something you want in the body. Adrenalin is produced in the body as a result of stress and anxiety, and it naturally degrades to adrenochrome, however in a healthy body and with a small release of adrenalin, it is safely scavenged by anti-oxidants in the body and excreted. However, if the period of stress, anxiety or prolonged uncertainty, can be sustained over a long time, then the release of adrenalin becomes continuous and the body can no longer safely scavenge the adrenochrome toxin and it starts to build up in the body.

Adrenochrome is a psychoactive compound; its effects are somewhat like LSD but whereas a bad LSD trip will eventually wear off, adrenochrome build up, in a suitably stressed or terrorised individual, will not wear off: leading to a potentially permanent condition of what is effectively intoxication by a powerful psychoactive compound running perpetually through the bloodstream. This condition is known as schizophrenia. Dr Abraham Hoffer’s work in identifying adrenochrome as the ‘schizophrenia’ toxin as well as the possibility of treatment with high doses of niacin also known as vitamin B3, would clear up some of the great mysteries of our times as well as almost instantly solving the world-wide mental illness epidemic; but there are powerful vested interests who perhaps would lose countless millions of dollars in such an event.

Adrenochrome is not an elixir of life, it does not have any positive effects on the body. Hoffer conducted experiments with the ingestion of Adrenochrome and reported his findings in his research paper entitled The Effect of Adrenochrome and Adrenolutin on the Behavior of Animals and the Psychology of Man.

Previously Hoffer had apparently administered adrenochrome to various creatures including spiders, fish, and pigeons to the mammals including rats, cats, dogs, monkeys. One wonders how the spiders felt about being given adrenochrome, one suspects none of the animals had a particularly good trip.

To quote from the paper:

“Some of the changes produced by adrenochrome may persist several days, and in some cases, the effects lead to nearly disastrous results.
The changes in thinking induced by adrenochrome are similar to those observed in schizophrenia. Adrenochrome causes an elective inhibition of the process, which determines the content of associative thinking.”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0074774208600252

The mind under a burden of adrenochrome enters a different state of consciousness. Schizophrenia is basically a form of consciousness and it is precisely this state which the UFO cults, the secret societies and Sufi mentors are trying to induce.

The scientific explanation for how it works is complex but basically adrenochrome is antagonistic to GABA fluid. GABA fluid is an electrical brain insulator which keeps the brain synapsis and neurons under control by reducing electrical charge. With adrenochrome the electromagnetic structure of the mind is totally changed. The usual natural dampening mechanisms of the brain’s physiology which control the mind, and one might even say, protect the soul from too much awareness in the physical realm, are bypassed leading to a break-down in the mechanism of control over the mental processes of the mind and that sense of estrangement from reality which so familiar to the schizophrenic.

Where things get really strange is that some of the experiences which go along with this altered state of consciousness are not necessarily unreal because they are taking place in altered consciousness. For instance, if you are sleeping you are in a different level of consciousness. What is happening in your dream to your unconsciousness mind is real for that level of consciousness. When you are awake you are in a different level of consciousness, and in effect, a different level of reality.

The adrenochrome experience, actually puts you in a different level of reality and this level of reality is shared by high level Illuminati people and other types who have had specific experiences which have put them in this same level of reality. While in this level of reality they can hear each other's thoughts and are able to perceive demonic and spiritual energies. The Illuminati consider this the peak of human development and call it ‘Illumination’. They deliberately induce this state because they find it allows them to have psychic and clairvoyant faculties because the brain is operating beyond its normal limits. We find this curious attitude even within the scientific community as attested by Barbara O’Brien:

“Consider the most extreme of the theories. ‘I am almost convinced,’ said one biologist, ‘that the schizophrenic is an attempt on the part of nature at forming a mutation.’

Historically, the ancient cults believed that there were ways to access altered states of consciousness and in these states, they could communicate with the unseen spirits, or ‘Gods’. Every culture in the world has a mythology that the Gods taught them the various crafts, arts and skills which enabled the human race to create the first civilisations within a time frame reaching back to the last 10,000 years, a period which coincides with the end of the last ice-age.

The oracles of the ancient world were usually people who through various methods, existed in a semi-permanent state of altered consciousness which allowed them to see the future and contact the unseen spirit world. Such abilities have always been lauded by the occult and secret-world which has always existed since the very dawn of human civilisation, after all, it would seem that these people were instrumental in gaining such knowledge using occult methods, if the ancient records which come up time and time again are to be believed and since the records all seem to say the same thing regardless of the geographical location, then there must be some truth behind these myths.

“According to the psychoanalyst who treated me, spontaneous recoveries are rare and weird events in advanced schizophrenia and when they occur they present a mysterious spectacle – that of a mind walking out of a fourth dimension into which it has been propelled”
For a schizophrenic to describe their condition as being propelled into the fourth dimension is quite apt, though for some they consider the feeling like being in hell, or even like being in a state of living death. One can see how such an enigmatic and mysterious state of reality might have become the interest and domain of a particular group of people a very long-long time ago in human history. There is even the possibility that the ‘curse of Cain’ refers to this condition but this is superstition and theorising and nothing more.

Perhaps a brief psychotic episode was also a feature of many of the ancient mystery school initiations: a figurative period in the underworld mired in despair and the fear of death only to pass beyond and out of this realm, back to the realm of life, but this time transformed and with the sure knowledge that there is a whole mysterious hidden realm behind the scenes or normal consciousness; this state being induced either through various trials and tribulations, or through fasting and the ingestion of psycho-active compounds.

Barbara O’Brien seems to see her experience in these terms, almost like a kind of journey through madness and return to normalcy:
“The guidance was clearer than the planning. I had been maneuvered into a hospital when I unconsciously suspected pneumonia; maneuvered into visiting a doctor when I unconsciously suspected a mastoid; maneuvered to a mountain cabin when I was exhausted from bus traveling; provided with a flashlight so that I wouldn’t fall on a dark road; rescued from a mountain lion; maneuvered out of the mountain cabin the morning after the mountain lion incident; reminded punctually of meal times and the necessity for eating; reminded punctually (during the last month) of the need for brushing my teeth and other grooming. Whatever mental level the guidance had come from, it was clearly some level other than the this-is-I dry beach, and it had made certain that the organism was kept in good physical condition while the dry beach was incapable of providing the car

The planning was almost as obvious. Even on the first day, the voices had sketched in the picture of things to come. This was an experiment the Operators had told me. My mind was going to be controlled by Operators and I should have to be cooperative for my own sake as well as for theirs. And Nicky had added, as if the success of the experiment were being weighed, I would have one chance in three hundred of escaping the Operators and I would have to be lucky in the bargain. I had been manoeuvred away from home, where publicity of my insanity would have made life difficult after sanity had been regained, and where also there existed a company for which I persisted in working and toward which I had developed long established, difficult-to-change attitudes. I had been induced into riding Greyhound buses, where I could sit in schizophrenic apathy while I lived in my mental world, a state of being almost identical on the surface with the usual bus passenger who stares at the landscape, his mind on inner reflections. I had been coaxed into writing letters that would keep the home folk happy, manoeuvred to California by the Lumberjacks, figures apparently created for that very purpose, and had been induced to stay in California for the final act. And when the fall of the final curtain was sense

It had occurred in an article by a psychiatrist who had cautiously avoided jumping into the lake of guesswork and who, instead, had stood on the center of a seesaw and observed carefully both sides of all the mysteries of schizophrenia. One of these observations was, “Whether the schizophrenic really creates a dream world intentionally and purposefully, or whether he finds himself in one is debatable.”
It is possible that she has rationalised it thus since she has the luxury of having sanity to put the experience into some kind of rational framework. Most people having such an experience of schizoid-psychosis of this kind are not so lucky and have to remain permanently in the underworld.

 

[I AM ALL I AM]

G'day.

This thread is to debate the question of historicity of biblical characters and the bible.

Truthspoon has stated: "Jesus Christ is a historical figure" and "The New Testament is a historical source"
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G'day Truthspoon.

Again, the above is from the OP and is the thread topic.

What you have posted in your previous reply is off topic and irrelevant.

Do you have no comprehension of what a debate is?

Is that why you fail to address the information presented and fail to answer questions that are asked?

Is that why you have failed to present any verifiable evidence for the claims that you have made quoted in the OP?

On numerous occasions I have asked you the following four questions ...

Why do you not believe in all of the other 'Gods'?

Or do you?

What evidence for the existence of all the other 'Gods' "would you find acceptable"?

Would it be verifiable evidence?

... and you failed to answer them every single time that they have been asked. These are only four of the questions that you fail to answer out of numerous others.

If you are unwilling to present any verifiable evidence for your claims and you are unwilling to answer questions that I ask, what is your point for posting on this thread?

Are you willing to withdraw the claims that you have made?

 

[I AM ALL I AM]

OPHIUCHUS - The Thirteenth Astrological Star Sign - The Infinite Love Forum

G'day.

In this and the following post, I will be combining information from the first two posts of the thread about Ophiucus which can be seen in its entirety at the above link. The thread was originally posted in 2008, with a previous thread originally posted on the David Icke forum back in 2007. These posts will detail information about the origins of the christian mythology in brief.

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THE WORD OBEAH​

Now, while it is true that the ORIGIN of the word is indeed obscured and clouded in secrecy, it is primarily because Obeah, as implied above, is in itself clouded in secrecy --- being the remnant of a once very powerful and celebrated SECRET religious Order lost in the mist of time. Even so, slowly over the years clues have surfaced that indicate THAT particular secret religious Order emanated from a certain general geographical area. Those clues, few in number that they may be, strongly point to the fact that the Order originated in or around an area where the Egyptian language was either born, dominant, or used by the priests or religious class --- much as Latin is used by certain religious orders today --- with the power and knowledge of Obeah maintained and rising from the underground ashes of that dispersed Order over the centuries. Considering such a background, it is very probable the etymology of the word sprang from the Egyptian word Ob or Aub, meaning "serpent." Oph is a winged serpent or dragon; and Ab means wisdom/understanding, and together means "Serpent of Wisdom" or "Serpent of Knowledge." To this day Obion is still the Egyptian name for a serpent. .....

Moses, who escaped with his people out of Egypt with the full might of the Pharaoh's army hot on their heels all the way to the Red Sea --- where the army reportedly then drowned --- forbade in the name of God, the Israelites even to enquire about the demon Ob, which is translated in the first testament as a necromancer, wizard, or Diviner. In today's world the various translations are wide enough to encompass the type shaman-sorcerer that the infamous Yaqui Indian Don Juan Matus apprenticed under, a Diablero, a new-world tribal spiritual elder known to embody a sense of evilness and the ability to shapeshift. Moses himself carries a great deal of importance in all those translations, including right up to this day with Obeah. Even though Moses forbade enquiry into Ob amongst his people, he is seen as the ultimate snake-charmer and among the greatest of magicians. When Moses doubted he was really hearing the voice of God, he was asked what he was holding in his hand. When he replied that he was holding a rod, he is commanded to throw it to the ground. When he does, the rod becomes a serpent. When he picks it up it becomes a rod again. Later, under the direction of Moses, when Aaron throws his rod down before Pharaoh, it becomes a snake as well.(Exodus 7:1-16) .....

Throughout the ancient world, the Middle East and Egypt, because of the brilliantly clear desert night skys, the stars and the constellations carried deep significance, both for the wandering tribes such as those following Moses and the great civilizations and city-states such as Babylonia, Sumeria, and Egypt. Ophiuchus the Serpent Bearer is one of those desert-sky constellations. Most people pretty much know what the Zodiac is --- the constellations on the plane of the ecliptic through which the sun passes in the course of a year --- and what their "Sun Sign" is in relation to the Zodiac (i.e., Sagittarius, Taurus, etc.). What most people don't know is that there are actually thirteen Sun Signs, NOT twelve. According to the official modern constellation boundaries that astronomers use today, the sun passes through thirteen constellations, not twelve. The Greeks chose to remove one of the original thirteen constellations from the Zodiac in order to accomplish their desire to have each sign rule for an even 30º of sky, so they selected Ophiuchus to be eliminated. It can only be because of his origins in Egypt as one of their most powerful dieties, on par with Osiris and Thoth, all of whom answered only to Ra. Mysteriously enough, just like Obeah is secret, hidden, and unknown, the "thirteenth constellation" of the Zodiac, Ophiuchus the Serpent Bearer is secret, hidden, and unknown. About one person in twenty is an "Ophiuchus," and they don't even know it.....

The peoples of ancient times (most typically the Pythagoreans, but others as well) had a legend that a kind of Light, described as a "living fire," flowed through all living things. Guarding this Flame was the serpent Ophioneus, very similar in respects to his nearly same namesake Ophiuchus. He was said to lay coiled in the Waters of Life. If anyone obstructed or hindered the Light of the Flame, Ophioneus would rise out of the water like a monster and consume them. The Greek philosopher Pherecydes (circa 600-550 BC) wrote a great deal about Ophioneus, having obtained the doctrines from the Phoenicians, also known as Ophites (Greece was first colonized by Ophites, serpent worshippers from both Egypt and Phoenicia). The Ophites venerated a serpent by the deity-title Ab, sometimes rendered Ob and Ob Aur, meaning Father --- as in the procreator of All. They also had the watery serpent Leviathan or Thiavat, which is same as Ophioneus. All of this ties into Abaddon that appears in Revelations as the Angel of the Abyss. It is unclear if the forces of the Abyss are fully good or evil in any way. The Obic forces that guard the Light and keep it flowing apparently take it by whatever means necessary and return it back to where it belongs when a person fails to let it flow or obstructs it.....

THE WORD OBEAH: What Does It Mean, How Does It Work?

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The Dawn of the Goddess​

The goddess religion came from Africa with modern humans 100,000 years ago. This may be inferred from the fact that very similar goddess stories are found on all continents, suggesting that the stories were known before modern people migrated to Europe; Asia, the Americas, and Australia. In Europe, (France) there are some recently discovered caves decorated with paintings and carvings which have been dated between 30,340 and 32,410 BP (before present).

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The solar year has a little more than 364 days. The lunar month has just over 29 days. To reconcile these awkward figures the ancient astronomers devised a calendar of thirteen equal months, each of 28 days or four equal weeks. This calendar is all but regular, with the full moon falling one day and one hour later each month, and with only a small correction to be made at the end of the year.

The lunar months (or 'moon ths'), were represented in the skies by the constellations of the zodiac; and on the ground by a circle of trees in the sacred grove. Twelve of the signs of the zodiac are familiar to us from the astrology columns in the daily newspapers, but what happened to the thirteenth, and what was its symbol? This question can be answered by consulting the works of the ancient astronomers. Ptolemy of Alexandria gives the name of the constellation, and also the bearing and magnitude of the stars which form it. The constellation was called Ophicius (in Greek) and Serpentarius (in Latin). Both names mean 'snake-holder', and refer to the pythoness, the high priestess of the goddess temples. The symbol of this sign, a bare-breasted woman holding snakes, occurred in the Sumerian; Minoan, and other cultures of the Archaic period. Thus the missing month, the month that we disrupted an orderly calendar to avoid, was the month of the Goddess. .....

Less familiar is the forgotten thirteenth sign, which lies "betwixt" them, Ophicius, the Snake-Holder, the symbol of which was a goddess or priestess brandishing two snakes, and which connoted the most important new moon in the goddess' lunar calendar. Milton, who also wrote the Book of Common Prayer used by Protestant congregations, has told us here in cryptic form that he was mindful that the Christian Satan (aka the Devil), was a new name given to an older but unmentionable deity, the goddess. .....

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Names of the Goddess

Aphrodite / Baalith / Bride / Dawn / Diana / Eire / Gaea / Hel / Hellene / Ishtar / Isis / Lilith / Lucifer / Maia / Mari / Minerva / Mother / Persephone / Queen of Heaven / Queen of the Night / Sophia / Venus...etc.

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For those that do not know "Lilith" is the name of the first wife of 'Adam' in Jewish mythology.
"Bride" is the common term used for the female in christian marriage ceremonies.
"Lucifer" is equated with 'Satan' in christian mythology, also known as the 'Morning Star', a name used in christian mythology by the character "Jesus' as a self-description in Revelation 22:16.
"Queen of Heaven" is related in christian mythology as who 'King Solomon' was chastised for offering up incense to.
There are other connections with the names ... "Ishtar" to 'Easter', "Mari" to 'Mary', among others ... though the above are obvious standouts.
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A Search for the White Goddess

The White Goddess is one of the names given to the Earth Mother; the Moon goddess, to Venus, Astarte, Lilith, Belili, the Muses, the Three Graces and to innumerable other female deities. She is found in the myths and legends of all cultures. The stories and attributes of the white goddess are remarkably similar in nations as far apart as Ireland and China, and this points to a very ancient common source for the myths, which appear to have come out of Africa with Homo sapiens 100,000 years ago.

This was a nature-based religion which involved close observation and celebration of the seasons and of the moon and the planets. Its bible was written in the stars for all to see, and its hymns were the songs of birds and the sighings of the breeze. The worship of the White Goddess reached its highest level in the time of the Minoans (say 1600 BC). In that period, the sea-trading Minoans carried their religion from their ports in the Mediterranean as far as Ireland in the west; and to tropical Asia in the east. Of the goddess-temples founded, the highest may have been that of Sappho on the island of Lesbos. The goddess-temples are of great importance to scholars, for they are the source of the alphabet we use; the musical scales we use, of the concept of poetry, of the calendar, of astronomy and history, and of formal mathematics and the sciences. This culture fell in a cataclysm in approximately 1600 BC, but was resumed by Achaeans (proto-Greeks), and by other civilisations honouring the nature goddess. The temple's role at the pinnacle of human culture and achievement lasted until the second century anno domine, when the the high priestess of the temple of Isis was murdered. The fall of the temple on the Nile marked the end of goddess-worship as a manifest or established religion, and the beginning of the Goddess' long career in hidden religion, that is, in the occult .

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The python is a recurring motif in the goddess myths. The serpent appears as the companion to the Baccantes and the Lamiae. Serpents form the Medusa's hair, and are draped about Minerva's collar. A serpent speaks to Eve in the Garden of Eden and is twice featured in the ancient zodiac. Serpents were kept Sappho's temple, and at later temples such as Delphi, where the oracle was called the pythoness. After the fall of Sappho's temple, the new god Apollo assumed many of the rights and powers previously attributed to the goddess. Apollo's first act on assuming office was to apologise in song for having slain the Python. .....

http://www.big.com.au/fallen/python.html

 

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The Vatican's Crest: the 'snake-/dragon' as displayed in the Vatican Museum.​

The word 'vatican' comes from Latin and is a contraction of two words in the following way:

'Vatis' = 'prophetic' or 'diviner'
'Can' = 'serpent/snake'

These two words combined make:

'the prophetic- or made divine serpent'
The Vatican is a place, so you may say, that 'Vatican' means 'the place of the prophetic and worshiped serpent'.

http://www.sign2god.com/folders/vaticaan/vaticaan-en.html

The Phoenician serpent god, alias Basilisk. The serpent, as well as the image of the sun, is always a phallic symbol in ancient religion. Basilisk is where the Roman Catholic Church got the name-- St. Peter's Basilica. Basilica is the old Greek name for the temple of the phallic god. How appropriate this is in view of the perpetual obsessions of the priests of "Mother Church." It also is well complimented by the obelisk in St. Peter's square which is a world wide phallic symbol complete with the phallic ball on top.

The above papal medal of Pope Gregory XIII, designed by L Parm, is dated 1582, marking the year of the Gregorian calendar reform. On the reverse of the medal is a winged dragon / serpent encircling a ram's head. As previously mentioned, the dragon is the biblical symbol of Satan (Rev 12:9). The serpent that is chasing or devouring its tail is called Ouroboros, Uroboros, or Oureboros. The ram's head is also a satanic symbol, and is frequently associated with the Egyptian deities, such as the god Amon (Amoun, Ammun, Ammon), the king of all gods, who was also regarded as the sun god, and Khnum, who created mankind on his potter's wheel from the mud of the Nile.

The intended symbolic meaning, however, is undoubtedly that of Aries the Ram, the first sign of the Zodiac, which symbolizes the Vernal / Spring Equinox, and Draco / Drako (or Ouroboros) the serpent depicting a cyclical returning. Pope Gregory XIII had modified the calendar specifically so that the Vernal Equinox would remain relatively constant, on or about March 21st, which is the beginning of the Zodiacal year, when the Sun crosses the Equator and enters the astrological sign of Aries. This had the desired result of returning Easter to the time specified by the Nicene Council (325 A.D.).

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Serpent Worship In Early Christian Art


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Yahweh is the serpent that curls around the prophets.
His head is at the lower right at the bottom of his column or pillar.​

Notice that 'Yahweh' forms a 'G', as shown in the freemasonry symbol in the below picture, and there are two 'parts', or 'sides' to the pillar, correlating to the twin 'Pillars of Freemasonry'.

The name ouroboros (or, in Latinized form, uroborus) is Greek οὐροβóρος, "tail-devourer". The depiction of the serpent is believed to have been inspired by the Milky Way, as some ancient texts refer to a serpent of light residing in the heavens.

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Lucifer is a Latin word meaning "light-bearer" (from lux, lucis, "light", and ferre, "to bear, bring"), a Roman astrological term for the "Morning Star", the planet Venus.

Lucifer - Wikipedia

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We are told that Jesus was a carpenter, but was he ?

The idea that he was a carpenter depends on one single reference in Mark's Gospel "Is not this the carpenter the son of Mary?" or Sun of Mari

But the Greek word 'tekton' and the underlying Aramaic word 'naggara' does not mean carpenter but more correctly translated "master builder or stone mason."

http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/articles/religion/religion4.html

Revelation 22:16 (KJV) "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

Revelation 22:16 (NIV) "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

2 Peter 1:19 (New International Version) "19And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts."

Moses interceded with God and was instructed:
"Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live"
(Numbers 21:8).

The term "seraph" has worried Biblical translators and commentators over the years. It is translated as "fiery serpent" in the King James version.

Dictionary: SERAPH n. one of the highest orders of angels.

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Jesus as a serpent-god from bas-relief in Egypt.​

This drawing was made by a member of Napoleon's army in 1798, one hundred years before the same face appeared to the world 'for the first time ever' on the photograph of the Shroud of Turin.

Adam, Eve, and the (female) Serpent at the entrance to Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. Medieval Christian art often depicted the Edenic Serpent as a woman, thus both emphasizing the Serpent's seductiveness as well as its relationship to Eve. (This connection might be due do the influence of Lilith, as well.) Several early Church Fathers, including Clement of Alexandria and Eusebius of Caesarea, interpreted the Hebrew "Heva" as not only the name of Eve, but in its aspirated form as "female serpent".

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But there is something of more importance in this hidden collection and it has far-reaching implications for the Holy Mother Church. It is a recorded fact that Leonardo-Michaelangelo-Raphael triumvirate was in receipt of a papal secret that had been confided to them by three particular popes ... Alexander VI (1431-1503), Julius II (1443-1513) and Leo X (1475-1521). It was these three popes who commissioned the creation of a considerable number of artworks and sculptures by the three masters who all, at some period in their lives, lived in luxurious quarters at the Palazzo del Belvedere (British Museum, 279, v), a villa on the Vatican Hill. They dined regularly with the popes, and it is generally believed that Leonardo was involved with a homosexual relationship with one or more of the popes. It was with a series of documented papal confessions that strengthened the suspicion that these three masters were in receipt of forbidden knowledge about Christian origins, and surreptitiously secreted that information into their sculptures and paintings. A number of the suppressed paintings and statues show Jesus naked on the cross, and as can be seen, not one of these works is visible anywhere in Italy because of the Vatican's intervention and control of these ancient works. Any artwork that depicts a naked crucified Jesus is anathema to the Church ... especially if the figure is not that of a man, but of a woman. There are at least 50 such works in this collection, and in the opinion of this author, the depictions of a female Jesus Christ, a Goddess, is the reason why these masterpieces are being kept under wraps. The cover-up of the 'female principle' in Christianity is revealed in an upcoming new book by this author called, The Secret Gospel Ciphers and it unlocks the great secret of the popes, the Cathars, the Knights Templar and the priest at Rennes-le-Chateau, in the South of France."

The Papal Billions, Tony Bushby, page 214.

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The Tree of Life​

In a cave where an ancient urn was found that had been used by the Scythians for burning marijuana, there was also a massive felt rug, which measured 5 by 7 metres. The carpet had a border frieze with a repeated pattern of a horseman approaching the Great Goddess, who holds the Tree of Life in one hand and raises the other in welcome.

Imagery of the Goddess and the Tree of Life is also found amongst other cultures with whom the Scythians came into contact. Readers of part three in this series (CC#5) will remember that the ancient Canaanites and also Hebrews paid particular reverence to the Near Eastern Goddess Ashera, whose cult was particularly focused around the use of marijuana.

According to the Bible itself, the ancient worshipers of Ashera included wise King Solomon and other biblical kings, as well as their wives and the daughters of Jerusalem. The Old Testament prophets often chastised them for "offering up incense" to the Queen of Heaven.

Like the imagery on the Scythian carpet, icons dedicated to Ashera also have depictions of a "sacred-tree", most likely a reference to the cannabis that her followers grew and revered, using it as a sacrament, as a food and oil source, and also using the fibres in ritual weavings.

Eve: cultural hero

Among her other titles, Ashera was known as "the Goddess of the Tree of Life", "the Divine Lady of Eden" and "the Lady of the Serpent". Ashera was often depicted as a woman holding one or more serpents in her hands. It was Ashera's serpent who advised Eve to disobey the male god's command not to partake of the sacred tree.

The historical record shows that the Old Testament version of the myth of Eve, the serpent and the sacred tree was concocted as propaganda against pre-existing Goddess cults.

Originally, the outcome of the Eden myth was not tragic, but triumphant. The serpent brought wisdom, and after the magic fruit was eaten, Adam himself became a god. What was originally involved was probably a psychedelic sacrament, like the Elusian festival in Athens, in which the worshiper ate certain hallucinogenic foods and became one with the Mother Goddess Demeter.

Like the Tree of Life, the Tree of Knowledge was a symbol associated with the Goddess. The rites associated with her worship were designed to induce a consciousness open to the revelation of divine or mystical truths. In these rites cannabis and other magical plants were used, and women officiated as priestesses.

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G'day.

Here is another inclusion from the Ophiucus thread that highlights a timeline of religious worshiping of the Jewish/Christian 'God(s)' .....


EUROPEAN & ASIAN HISTORY 1150 - 1001 B.C.

Israel claims God is a jealous God who will punish the people mercilessly for abandonment of his worship.

Israel considers menstruation as being spiritually unclean.

1,150 B.C.

The Chaldeans migrate from Arabia into the Euphrates region and settle in Ur. The book of Genesis refers to Abraham’s birthplace as Ur of the Chaldeans.

Josephus (37-100 A.D.) contends that Israel is delivered into the hands of Palestine for forty years (1170-1130). Eli (1150-1130) is a judge under Philistine rule.

Mustang in northern Nepal has a mountain cave painting of Buddha at the 11,000 foot level.


1,148 B.C.

Josephus (37-100 A.D.) contends Samuel is a judge (1130-1116) which conflicts with the Philistine reign


1,147 B.C.

(26th) King Wu Yi of the Shang Dynasty of China ruled about 35 years (1,147-1,112 B.C.)


1,145 B.C.

Pharaoh Ramses (Rameses) VI (1145-1135 B.C.) (1145-1137 B.C.) dynasty 20 but effective control is with the High Priest of Amun Ramsesnakhte (1166-1135).


1,135 B.C.

Pharaoh Ramses (Rameses) VII (1135-1125 B.C.) (1137-1129 B.C.) dynasty 20 but effective control is with the High Priest of Amun Usermarenakhte son Ramsesnakhte (1166-1135).


1,131 B.C.

Biblical Jephthah (1131-1125 B.C.) the Gileadite son of Gilead and a alien harlot became Judge of the tribes of Israel. Jephthah marched against and defeated the Ammonites. The men of Ephraim crossed the Jordan and engaged Israel but lost the war and 42,000 are killed.


1,125 B.C.

Pharaoh Ramses (Rameses) VIII (1125-1115 B.C.) (1129-1128 B.C.) dynasty 20 but effective control is with the High Priest of Amun Usermarenakhte son Ramsesnakhte (1166-1135).
Biblical Ibzan (1125-1118 B.C.) of Bethleham became Judge of the tribes of Israel.


1,122 B.C.

Korea marks this date as the beginning of their culture. Legend suggests a Chinese exile named Ki Tse with 5,000 followers established a Kingdom called Chosen. Two distinct aboriginal people occupied this area. The Southern people are more Japanese in nature.


1,118 B.C.

Biblical Elon (1118-1108 B.C.) of Zebulum became Judge of the tribes of Israel.

The Jewish historian Flavious Josephus (37-100 A.D.) calculates the start of Solomon's reign (1056-977 B.C.) a minor tribal warlord as 612 years after the Exodus or 1118 B.C. (+ or - 10 years). He calculates that there were 13 high priests during this period. He calculates there are eighteen high priests to the burning of the temple in 652 B.C. Other calculations suggest 1052. It is noteworthy that the extensive kingdom of Solomon escaped the notice of both its subjects and its neighbors, the Phoenicians, Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Amorites, Canaanites, Edomites, and Moabites. Solomon is likely mostly myth.


1,116 B.C.

Josephus (73-100 A.D.) places Biblical King Saul (1116-1096 B.C.) and attacked the Aramaean (Ammonites) King Agag whose kingdom lay across the northern frontier of Israel. King Saul is alleged baptized King of Israel by Samuel (1148-1116 B.C.). Saul is the first king of Israel as they adopt the Kingship concept from the Egyptians.

The Aramaeans worshipped the God El of Abraham and respected other peoples Gods including the Sumero-Akkadian (Semitic), Canaanite and the Phoenicians. They followed the culture of the country where they settled. Many considered them uncouth, barbaric and whom many claimed contributed nothing to civilization yet they imported their language Aramaic upon the entire Near East. Aramaic is derived from Akkadian and originally Sumerian. The Minoan-Philistines in Israel maintained a monopoly over the metal industry during the reign of King Saul (1116-1096 B.C.). The Philistine city of Ashdod contains seals inscribed on metal ingots with Minoan Linear A writing that attest to their literacy and a cultural heritage more than a thousand years old.


1,115 B.C.

Pharaoh Ramses (Rameses) IX (1115-1105 B.C.) (1128-1110 B.C.) dynasty 20 but effective control is with the High Priest of Amun Amunhotpe son Ramsesnakhte (1166-1135). Amunhotpe's relief is shown as being almost on equal footing to the Pharoah (King) .


1,112 B.C.

(27th) King Wen Ding of the Shang Dynasty of China ruled about 10 years (1,112-1,102 B.C.)


1,108 B.C.

Biblical Abdon (1108-1100 B.C.) son Hillel of Pirathon became Judge of the tribes of Israel. Israel is delivered into the hands of Palestine for forty years.


1,105 B.C.

Pharaoh Ramses (Rameses) X (1105-1095 B.C.) (1110-1106 B.C.) dynasty 20 but effective control is with the High Priest of Amun Amunhotpe son Ramsesnakhte (1166-1135).


1,101 B.C .

(28th) King Di Yi of the Shang Dynasty of China ruled about 25 years (1,101-1,076 B.C.)


1,100 B.C.

The Phoenicians emerged as a significant cultural and political force about this time. It is believed the Phoenicians established a colony beyond the strait of Gibralter at Cadiz (Gadir, Spain). Later in the 8th century they established settlements along the Spanish and Portugal coast, it was evident the native peoples had not known of sea going ships.

During the later stage of the Shang Dynasty (1,600-1,050 B.C. the emperors referred to them selves as the son of Heaven meaning ruler of all the world under the sky.


1,096 B.C.

Biblical King Saul (1116-1096 B.C.) a Semitic-Israelite is slain by the Semitic-Ammonites and Minoan-Philistines at Gilboa. Some contend Hebrew turncoats caused the defeat of King Saul's army. Others contend Saul committed suicide. The Philistines and Ammonites striped the bodies of King Saul and his three sons, cut off their heads and hung their bodies on the wall of Betshean, according to the Bible. He had his reign weakened by a revolt of his son Jonathan in alliance with David. King David (1096-1056 B.C.) a Semite of Israel and minor tribal warlord also attacked the other Semitic speaking Aramaean, Canaanites and Jordan (Amon, Edom and Moab) as well as non Semitic Philistines. The Minoan-Philistines formed a confederation of five cities Ashdod, Ascalon, Ekron, Gath and Gaza. The Minoan-Philistines are not of Semitic origin having originated in Crete and Anatolia (Greece). The Semitic Hebrews laid claim to their land but are unable to displace them. These Palestine people followed the God Dagon or Baal (The Lord). God Baal is worshipped throughout Canaan also with the Great El the God of Abraham and many Semitic Hebrews deserted Jehovah for Baal. It is noteworthy that the God Baal demanded the sacrifice of children. The Philistines of Bet-She'an on the Jordan River made their last stand against the attacking Hebrews. This city dates back to 5,000 B.C. and includes twenty-five distinct cities.

King David (1096-1056 B.C.) of Hebron, Palestine a minor tribal warlord attacked and captured Jerusalem (Urusalim) from the Jebusites making it his capital city. Urusalim has existed for 2,000 years or more before being seized by the Semitic-Hebrews. The city of Urusalim (Jerusalem) is named after the local god of the Canaanites-Shalem. He repelled the Arameans of Damascus and forged an alliance with Hiram of Tyre against the Minoan-Philistines. He attempted to unite the warring tribes of Semitic-Judah and Semitic-Israelites from the Semitic-Canaanites. He appointed two high priests to represent the two major Hebrew sects, the Semitic-Israelites and the Judians. The High Priest Abiathar who represents the Semitic-Israel Sect and the God of Abraham Eli Shiloh will later be banished from Jerusalem (Urusalim) to Anathoth a town near Jerusalem. Female menstruation among Jewish women begins to be known as being spiritually unclean. No physical contact is allowed with the unclean. King David (1096-1056 B.C.) himself is considered unclean in the eyes of God because his hands are stained with so much Canaanite and Philistine blood. No amount of hand washing could remove his infamy. The King David exploits are highly exaggerated as he is a minor warlord and if he existed his activities didn't change matters very much.


1,095 B.C.

(26th) King Wu-yi (1198-95) or (1,147-1,112 B.C.) is considered one of the last evil rulers of the Shang dynasty. He is killed by lightning after mocking the Spirit of Heaven.

Reign Pharaoh Ramses (Rameses) XI (1095-1085 B.C.) (1106-1078 B.C.) dynasty 20 but effective control is with the High Priest of Amun Hrihor that is being challenged by the Viceroy Pinhasy of Nubia who controls the grain and army. Hrihor claimed himself as King being in control of Thebes and the south. This internal squabbling divided the kingdom. Under the rule of Hrihor, Wenamun is sent to Syria to buy cedar for the processional barque of Amun-Re the God. Wenamun is robbed of his money and discovers that Egypt has no influence and his ingrained belief in the superiority of Egypt is dashed.


1,085 B.C.

The kings ruled at Tanis, in the northeast Delta. At Thebes the High priests descendents of Hrihor ruled on behalf of Amun.


1,075 B.C.

(29th) King Di Yi alias Zi Shou or Zhou Xin of the Shang Dynasty of China ruled about 29 years (1,075-1,046 B.C.) This is the end of the Shang Dynasty

(1st) King Wu of the Zhou Dynasty of Ching (1,046-1.043 B.C.)


1,070 B.C.

A people called the Hieroglyphic Hittites (Neo-Hittites) occupied the Mediterranean shore of Syria. They are believed related to the Luwians. The Assyrians and Aramaeans would absorb them by 745 B.C.

Many Biblical scholars believe that if King David and Solomon existed they were relatively minor tribal warlords. The archeological research does not support for example the claims of the Solomon sect followers. The archeological evidence attributed to David and Solomon’s time actually dates to almost a century later during Ahab's time the man who married the adulterous Jezebel. However others still believe the Semitic-Hebrew under the leadership of King David (1096-1056) and Saul defeated the Pulestiu (Philistines) or Semitic-Canaanites. King David (1096-1056 B.C.) and his son Solomon (1056-977 B.C.) entered into an alliance with the Djahi or Semitic-Phoenicians (sea going traders) from the coastal cities of Sidon, Byblos and especially Tyre. The Semitic-Hebrew's believed their God is a jealous God who would punish the people mercilessly for any abandonment of his worship. Archeological evidence suggests the Semitic Israelites still worshipped a number of Gods and there are forty references to the Goddess Ashara. Ashara is the Mother Goddess of the ancient Semitic-Hebrews (Israelites) and the Semitic Cananites. The Semitic-Phoenician traded from Palestine throughout all the islands of the Mediterranean. They traveled to Carthage in Africa, Cadiz in Spain for tin through the straits of Gibraltar down the Atlantic coast of Africa. They also carried the usage of the alphabet throughout their travels as a means to record their trade transactions. Evidence suggests silk from China is being traded to Egypt.


1,069 B.C.

The Egyptian Third Intermediate Period (1069-664 B.C.) or based on the Rohl theory (874-664 B.C.). covers the 21st to 25th dynasties of Pharaohs. This period is confusing with overlaying reigns, missing dynasties and much disagreements among the experts.

The reign of Pharaoh Smendes (ca. 1085) (after ca. 850 B.C) or (1069-1043 B.C.) of dynasty 21.


1,066 B.C.

The mythical, Biblical King Solomon (1056-977 B.C.) son of King David (1096-1056 B.C.) of Israel and Bathsheba is a minor tribal warlord; some followers claim that King Solomon (1056-977 B.C.) married about 1066 B.C. the Egyptian Pharaoh's daughter. This supports the long-standing alliance between Israel and Egypt. Archaeological evidence supports the existence of Egyptian presence in Jerusalem (Urusalim). Bathsheba however is only one of his 700 wives and 300 concubines. Many are arranged to solidify alliances but it is said Solomon is much addicted to women. His wives included Semitic-Moabites, Semitic-Edomites, Sidonian and Hittites expressly forbidden by law. About 1052 B.C. he built a temple of Yahweh, a place and the walls of Jerusalem (Urusalim). This has been proven to be incorrect and some even question his existence as a historic person. Tradition suggests King Solomon (1056-977 B.C.) of Israel and Judiah had a son Menelik I with the Queen of Sheba. Menelik I established the Ethiopian Royal line of the Lion of Judah. It is believed that King Solomon (1056-977 B.C.) gave a duplicate of the Ark of the Covenant to his son by the Queen of Sheba (Balkis), a black African.


1,060 B.C.

Biblical Sampson (1060-1040 B.C.) son Manoah of the tribe of Dan and became Judge of the tribes of Israel. Sampson married a Philistine, killed 30 men to settle a wager then abandoned his wife because she deceived him. Sampson later married Delilah who also deceived him.


1,056 B.C.

As Biblical King David's reign (1096-1056 B.C.) came to a close he adopted the Egyptian religion practice of Kingship and appointed his 2nd son Solomon (1056-977 B.C.) as his successor. He forced his son to swear vengeance on the Benjaminites from Bahurim and put them to the sword. This inherited vengeance is surely not an Egyptian practice. The Benjamites had laid a curse on King David (1096-1056 B.C.) and his house. These Semitic-Israelites believed the only way to lift a curse is to turn it on the originator. It is noteworthy that the David's 1st son Adonijah was not chosen. King Solomon (1056-977 B.C.) would be forced to murder his older brother, expel Abiathar the priest of King David (1096-1056 B.C.) and kill Joab son Zeruiah and Shimei to secure the Kingship.


1,052 B.C.

King Solomon (1056-977 B.C.) commenced the construction of a temple for Yahweh at Jerusalem (Urusalim) that would be completed by 1035 B.C. Solomon's palace in honor of himself would take thirteen years to construct. The burden on the people is great. This extravagance exceeded the ability of the Palestine's to pay and would result in revolts. Archeological evidence suggests this construction did not occur until a century later under Ahab's reign. Solomon is a minor tribal warlord whose exploits are greatly exaggerated.


1,050 B.C.

The Late Bronze Age civilization of Greece had collapsed, its great palace sites destroyed or abandoned.

King Di Xin aka Zi Shou or King Zhou of the Shang Dynasty (1766-1050) is the last king of that dynasty.

'Shu' is a state during the Zhou Dynasty (1050-256 B.C.) This Shu is a one character symbol not a two character symbol.


1,045 B.C.

It is believed the Zhou dynasty of China started 1,045 B.C. and lasted to 221 B.C. Others suggest (1,050-256 B.C. The Zhou, overthrew the Shang royal house about 1050 B.C., justifying their conquest by citing the weaknesses and excesses of late Shang kings. The Zhou accused them, among other things, of overindulgence in alcohol,


1,043 B.C.

The reign of Pharaoh Amunemnisu (after ca. 850 B.C) or (1043-1039 B.C.) of dynasty 21.


1,040 B.C.

Biblical Samuel (1040-1030 B.C.) son Judge of the tribes of Israel.


1,039 B.C.

The reign of Pharaoh Psusennes I (ca. 1050 B.C.) (after ca. 850 B.C) or (1039-991 B.C.) of dynasty 21.


1,027 B.C.

The Western Zhou dynasty of China covered the period of 1,027 to 771 B.C., others suggest 1,050-256 B.C. broken into the Western Zhou 1,050 to 771 B.C.; the Eastern Zhou 771 to 256 B.C.; Spring and autumn period 770 to 475 B.C; and finally the Warring States Period from 475 to 221 B.C. Both accounts agree it ends in 221 B.C.

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/dgarneau/euro21.htm

The above link is no longer active.

 

[Truthspoon]

More source-less second hand spam where even the website link is derelict....

Again, it's obvious you just don't even know your own bullshit and have to rely on reams of second hand source-less spam.

 

[Truthspoon]

Aramaic is derived from Akkadian and originally Sumerian.

No doofus. Akkadian and Sumerian are completely linguistically distinct.

Sumerian is a 'language isolate' and has no known roots or daughter language.

You don't have a command of the critical facts.

As usual.

 

[Truthspoon]

The word 'vatican' comes from Latin and is a contraction of two words in the following way:

'Vatis' = 'prophetic' or 'diviner'
'Can' = 'serpent/snake'

This is laughable and pathetic.

The 'pull it out of your arse' school of etymology.

 

[Truthspoon]

You must be truly be very stupid to believe what you post or else part of a knowingly deceptive agenda.

Either way it isn't good for you.

 

[Truthspoon]

Obion is still the Egyptian name for a serpent. .....

No it isn't.

 

[Truthspoon]

Nearly everything you have quoted is absolute bullshit.

 

[Truthspoon]

But the Greek word 'tekton' and the underlying Aramaic word 'naggara' does not mean carpenter but more correctly translated "master builder or stone mason."

It does not mean stone mason. It just means 'craftsman'. Jesus could well have been a stone mason....or a carpenter.

It is not clear either way.

Tekton is ambiguous. But there is no reason to believe it means stone-mason over carpenter.